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TOPIC: Does it matter to God if we believe in him?

Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 1 year 4 weeks ago #3502

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You know, from the Atheist foundation experience that some deists had in the past and from all the interaction on the internet and in person with atheists I have come to believe that a lots of them hate any idea of God.

Now, the question I would like to ask everyone is wheter or not you believe that belief in the intelligent source of everything that exists matters . Does it matter to God.

I am convinced that it matters. Everything we do no mater how small matters to God. That's because I believe God cares. I don't think that God can hate those that don't believe. I don't hate them either. But if your claims are that if He exists He is evil than how could he take you to himself when the time comes? If you don't want him from the depth of your heart then He might just honor your wishes!

Anyway, what do you think?
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Re: Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 1 year 4 weeks ago #3504

Ervin wrote:
You know, from the Atheist foundation experience that some deists had in the past and from all the interaction on the internet and in person with atheists I have come to believe that a lots of them hate any idea of God.

Now, the question I would like to ask everyone is wheter or not you believe that belief in the intelligent source of everything that exists matters . Does it matter to God.

I am convinced that it matters. Everything we do no mater how small matters to God. That's because I believe God cares. I don't think that God can hate those that don't believe. I don't hate them either. But if your claims are that if He exists He is evil than how could he take you to himself when the time comes? If you don't want him from the depth of your heart then He might just honor your wishes!

Anyway, what do you think?

I think that since we can't know that He exists, that it would be a lie to say that we do. Doing so is what's perpetuated religious lies down the millennia. Agnosticism is the only honest opinion. God knows we can't know so how could he hold it against us.

I think TJ said it best: "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." I'd have said blind-folded 'faith', but they both apply, and in any case, the 'homage of reason' is the critical point.

And as a deist, I believe to the point of certainty that if God does exist, He doesn't grant wishes. He can't.
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Re: Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 1 year 4 weeks ago #3509

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Ervin, I think the idea of God "caring" is more of a theistic view because it really requires an anthropomorphic God. I don't think God cares whether we believe and if some sort of entity he definitely does not need our worship, prayers, etc...however, my personal view is that God is the source of all life and/or encompasses all that is spiritual so when we desire to connect with that life source and spiritual element (which could be called believing or having faith) and when we love each other, achieve our potential, strive for enlightenment, care for the Earth, etc., this in turn has a positive effect on the essence which we call God. If we put that in human terms, that could be considered "pleasing God" or "doing as God would want us to do".
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Re: Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 1 year 4 weeks ago #3511

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Seems to me kind of like asking if gravity cares if we believe in it or not. It just is.

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"I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life." (Thomas Paine)
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Re: Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 11 months 4 weeks ago #3734

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NC_Bluebird wrote:
I personally don't think that God cares if we believe in "him" or not. I don't think "he" is capable of having those emotions as some sort of separate entity apart from creation/universe, other than as expressed through parts of the universe. I don't think he loves or hates. I don't think he's a person or an animal but just is.....the energy/source that runs throughout everything. The "God is"..."I am" kind of thing. That's how I look at God anyway. Kind of like asking if gravity cares if we believe in it or not. It just is.

Sharon

Yep, What you posted seems like a a pretty good theory to me. Probably as good as anything I've encountered up to now. I like the god/energy gravity analogy.
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Re: Does it matter to God if we believe in him? 11 months 4 weeks ago #3737

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I do believe God loves but I think its impossible for Hem to hate. I do believe that Gods love is infinite. According to my logic there is only one infinite being and and for infinite being it would be impossible to hate. Existence of evil proves to me Hems infinity in compassion and love. I believe God created the world for evil sentient beings to go on with their evil wich proves his love even for the evil.

I say Hem instead of He or She since I read somewhere that some European toy company inented Hem for someone with no gender.

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